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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted October 22, 2012 01:34 PM
I've seen these for the last two months or so, but I believe that someone is on some very bad grounds.
Someone is makin g DVD prints of thier super 8 collection and marketing them over ebay. Now, selling an actual super 8 print is one thing, as you haven't made a copy of it and your sel;ling the actual print.
... but all those super 8 prints, on the boxes (wel;l, not every distributor did so) they say "for private home viewing" ...
... and to make your own DVD copy is certainly infringing on the original copyright owner.
If a studio wated to, they could sue the s**t ot of this person, that's for sure. Perhaps they're banking, "by the time someone sues me, I will have made enough money to make it all worthwhile ...
but certainly a very bad idea, as it is the studios right and only the studios right, to make a DVD copy of thier own film, and not a private collector ...
... unless, of course, the specific film has run out on it's copyright, but nearly all film that this person is selling are certainly under copyright protection.
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted October 23, 2012 01:32 PM
Besides the illegality of them, note that the ebay seller doesn't put a single screen capture from the DVD but instead puts up a stock picture up which is obviously not from the film, (i'm not sure of a few of them), so the potential buyer doesn't even know if they are getting a faded scratched to hell super 8 print or a pristine unfaded super 8 print.
(please note, that this is not an encouragement for the seller to put up super 8 shots from the actual prints, as I certainly do not want to encourage the sellers illegal activity, (especially if this person could potentially be a member of our very forum here). If anything, this series of posts is to, if the person is a member, help them to desist from this activity before they hang themselves by thier very film stock!)
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted October 24, 2012 01:20 PM
There is the very slightest part of me that envies this, in a manner. I mean, if he is taking aging but still good prints, and cleaning them up digitally and placing them on DVD, he is kind of an "archivist" of sorts.
Interestingly enough, I have heard that there a re a few DVD's put out under copyright by studios that, for a nifty extra, have included a telecine transfer of the super 8 digest from the 70's for nolstalgia purposes.
Does anybody know the titles I'm thinking of, because they escape me at the moment.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 24, 2012 02:34 PM
I myself have no argument with this,it isn't to my taste,
watching little 200 footers, but I would advise caution to these folk making them,because these films are not in the public domain
and these businesses that own the copyright can be protective.
There is a warning at the beginning of these prints about such
things, if someone is trying to make a "bob or two" for themselves
fine, but be careful.Myself,I think I'll stick to film, or at least the
full feature on DVD.
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Timothy Ramzyk
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From: Milwaukee,WI,USA
Registered: Nov 2006
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posted October 24, 2012 10:22 PM
I had to admit I was tempted, I no longer buy digests, and sold those which I had. Even in the heyday of my collecting I got snooty about digests instead focusing on complete subjects, I kinda miss them the way I do a familiar tune I'd almost forgot.
It's funny when I now watch a feature film of something i once owned a digest of. I'm always aware of when the clips in the digest kick in, probably because I watched 200 and 400 footers soo many times. I even anticipate their edits.
I buy a fair number of import DVD horror films, and the German disks frequently include 400ft. Super 8 transfers as an extra. Some look amazingly good some pink and spliced up. Still it's fun that they do it, and their heart is in the right place.
That said, I don't really get what this guy is up to, I'd rather have a transfer from the original prints or not at all.
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I think this seller just doesn't understand film collecting. Maybe he or she thinks we'll buy these to preview a digest before buying, but that's a longshot....
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I cannot think of a sillier thing to spend $5 on.....
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