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Topic: Osi's coring video
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted March 22, 2014 12:53 PM
No need to start another post ...
to address Micheal's "concerns" ...
I actually got ahold of Fred about GWTW selling earlier this week, (Tuesday, I think), but since he has not written me back as of yet, I'm not sure if he got the e-mail, as he doesn't head to the library (as I do) every day, (except Sunday) or even, every week).
I've waited for a little bit because, with high dollar items, there is much more of a chance of a buyer watching a film once or not even watching it and getting "Buyers remorse" and demanding they're money back. It happens, folks.
If I was to send off Fred's money to him right away, and the person puts in a dispute for they're cash back, that would end up coming out of my own pocket, and having not worked a regular job in fours years (and literally living on "fumes"), well, there is no way that I am going to eat that!
So, I wait a little longer to let him know on GWTW. I treat Fred the same as the number of other people that I also sell for, (Fred is just one among many).
Now, onto Dan's latest diatribe ...
(sheesh, were on about all of this again?!)
Dan saw a post on the other forum from Joe Tafis ...
"Osi, After seeing all the "cored" films you're selling on eBay; I have a good idea of where all the Elmo 1200' aluminum reels I bought from Fred came from "
... To make on thing clear, all the films which I have recieved from Fred have been on 1200ft reels. In the unfortunate circum-stance of GWTW, Fred mailed off the four reels in separate boxes, reel 1# came with another two reels from him, and about a week later, the other three reels arrived, 2X1200ft and one 800 ft reel. The second package was unfortunately damaged in transit, (it's pretty hard to damage those boxes that Fred sends his films in, but apparently, it's possible).
Reels 3 and 4, on 1200ft ELMO reels, were bent and damaged too much to mail out with the sold film, the 800ft reel (white plastic ELMO reel), was actually cracked and broken.
Fortunately, the film itself was not damaged.
Now, I can't speak for any other seller, but I personally think that to sell one good 1200ft reel (part 1) and then have the other reels all cored would be silly and just cause more questions than answers, so I took the film off of reel 1 and cored that as well. Yeah, I said cored, whoopee do.
So, technically, the film arrived on reels, but un-useable reels
so, if you want to argue semantics all over again, go ahead, I'm done with this topic.
Dan, I highly encourage you to read the other post I have just put up.
Sincerely OSI Osgood
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Michael O'Regan
Film God
Posts: 3085
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted March 22, 2014 01:35 PM
Thanks for your reply, Osi.
One thing still puzzles me and it's the contradiction between two posts of yours regarding GWTW.
The first one was on Feb 11th on this forum:
"In this case I got it cored, but just to show my determination to sell something proper, I actually had to "uncore" each and every reel with my one empty 600ft reel, just to test each reel and make sure it was in prime condition."
So, there and in a separate post elsewhere, you plainly stated that you received the print cored....and then just today you said:
"... To make on thing clear, all the films which I have recieved from Fred have been on 1200ft reels."
This is a clear contradiction, which cannot even be put down to something like an innocent mistake.
Oh, and I also wondered about this point. You said above that you received Reel 1 on a 1200ft reel from Fred, and:
"... so I took the film off of reel 1 and cored that as well."
You originally told us you had just one 600ft reel at your disposal. When pushed on that point you said that you had actually had two 600ft reels at your disposal. But, now it would appear that you also had a 1200ft reel to spare.
Again, it shouldn't be too difficult for anyone to see why I find it hard to reconcile all of this in my mind.
You understand my confusion, I'm sure. With obvious incongruities like that, you can understand why people might question you.
Can you, perhaps, clarify (clearly) these issues and maybe we'll be able to put this all to rest.
[ March 22, 2014, 04:08 PM: Message edited by: Michael O'Regan ]
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Dan Lail
Film God
Posts: 2110
From: Loganville, Georgia, USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted March 22, 2014 07:39 PM
Osi Osgood wrote.....
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Dan, I highly encourage you to read the other post I have just put up.
Sincerely OSI Osgood
Osi, I read your other post before it was taken down, and I have my copy for future purposes. I know that personal attacks and threats are not allowed on this forum and understand why the post was deleted. Please bare in mind, this was not taken lightly on my part.
The original inquiry that started this whole thing was on this forum. The inquiry was why was the GWTW print on cores. You stated, "I got it cored". Then you said you viewed the film and cleaned it, using your "Platter onna Plank" and one 600' reel. This went on for weeks. Then you said you had two 600' reels. Then you did a post asking people to give you a definition of the word "cored". Now you say you received the film on 1200' reels. I and others have been questioning you about your statements because they just did not make sense, and the answers kept changing. Several times you tried to turn the attention to me about some emails and accusing me of stalking you. On another forum, you even stated, "I own you, Dan". What's up with that? These forums are for discussion and enjoyment of film collecting, selling, and reviewing, etc., not for wild goose chases. Selling other people's films is just not this difficult. I know from experience.
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Winbert Hutahaean
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Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted March 22, 2014 08:11 PM
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These forums are for discussion and enjoyment of film collecting, selling, and reviewing, etc., not for wild goose chases
Dan it is in your very own forum you did that by opening a specific thread.
ps: the previous URL that linked to the context above has been deleted, of course by that forum admin/owner. That's fine with me because it is coincidentally in accordance with this forum's rules (that I just realized) not to link with another forum site. But below is the google cache of the topic that I meant. I think it will be a hard job to anyone, that includes Barrack Obama, asking google to delete this.. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
http://goo.gl/kNjA91
http://goo.gl/tJMpSS
What are they Dan? And btw welcome back, you break your hybernating periode with this forum only to chase Osi....
pss: you also break your very own rule "will not delete, lock up, or edit any posts"...
cheers,
[ March 25, 2014, 04:24 AM: Message edited by: Winbert Hutahaean ]
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Michael O'Regan
Film God
Posts: 3085
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted March 26, 2014 02:26 PM
To be honest, I can totally understand why this whole business has angered a lot of people. In fact, it angers me, because I've come off the bad guy all 'round.
However, if anyone would like to take the time to check back over all the threads ( and I don't expect that anyone will bother - can't say that I blame you)) it would become readily apparent who is responsible for the length of time and space this has taken up. There has been evasion after fabrication after inconsistency after change of story, etc....and anyone who can't see this is deliberately choosing not to do so.
It could be argued that this should have been pursued privately and I did, in fact, apologise to Osi for perhaps not having done so in the first place.
So, at that point (about three weeks or so ago), in an attempt to keep further discussion off of the public forum, I contacted Osi privately in order to get some answers to my still unanswered queries. However, Osi immediately chose to make the discussion public again by answering my PRIVATE messages in public (on the other forum).
So, for anyone who thinks that I've dragged this on and on....that ain't the way it happened.
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