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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted November 28, 2016 11:27 AM
If there are ten copies as of when Doug bought his, then there is at least 11, as I have a copy, but my copy is NOT the Derann release! It's a super 8 scope feature, but it's the 1977 version and not the 1980 re-issue "Special Edition", (which is great as well).
There has been much speculation as to exactly WHERE this 1977 version actually came from, and i don't think we'll ever really know, but it's on low fade film stcoks as well. here is a link to a youtube video of some of the last reel that I put up on, well, youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSct449Ygh4
BTW, my apologies, when I did this video, I must have had the the speed at about 26 or so seconds, a little fast. The sound on this print was very good as well, though mono.
-------------------- "All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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Rob Young.
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1633
From: Cheshire, U.K.
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted November 29, 2016 01:12 PM
Yes, Paul, the super 8 Derann prints were legal as far as I am aware.
Film for the Collector ran at the very least full page teasers for it (I'm away this week, but can look this up and post next week).
Derann presented this feature (the special edition version) at one of the spring Blackpool film fayres.
Certainly this was not the same approach as selling the "import" or "specials".
It was very much advertised for sale.
And they certainly had a Columbia deal at the time.
So, my sources tell me that the reason this totally legit release fell apart was indeed because "knock off" 16mm prints were also being produced...and they were found out.
End of deal.
Actually, the consequences could have been much worse.
I know some people "in the know" can back me up here, and since this matter was settled between Derann and Columbia, and the former is long gone, it doesn't really matter any longer if anyone cares to add to this discussion...but suffice to say that your super 8 Derann prints were purchased in good faith and are safe.
The only reason the legit super 8 prints are limited is because the big D were naughty boys and had the plug pulled.
BUT, now, if you have gone to the trouble of producing a 16mm negative for a super 8 release of a big James C movie and then the distributor which you have the deal with goes bust (hello, "Carrolco")...do you bin the neg or print some "imports"...???
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