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Osi Osgood
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- posted December 13, 2012 01:00 PM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey folks ...

I'm offering up this very rare print of the UPA Columbia short, "The Tell Tale Heart" link is as follows ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321040972754?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

This film is nararrated by James Mason. As auction states, so it true. I bought this years ago still unopened, and we watched it only once, being that the standard 8mm sound projector broke down.

A rare short to be sure. Box is as near mint as you could ask!

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Fabrizio Mosca
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Osi, is it a 400ft?

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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I too have this little film Osi,and have to say it is a very atmospheric piece containing some stunning scenes that could
give youngsters nightmares.Well worth having.

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Gerald Santana
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This is a great short Hugh, volume is on the low side (on mine) but, worth getting if you like creepy, atmospheric animation.

Fabrizio, this is a 200' short.

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Osi Osgood
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ThanX Gerald, you answered my question!

The box (pristine) has one of those classic "Monster" style covers, (like the classic Castle Film covers), which doesn't stray too far from the look of the animated film.

A little trivia ... it's too bad that UPA didn't get to do what they wanted with this film. This film was designed to take advantage of the then 3D craze going on in the fifties, and was never released in that format. I wonder if they ever actually made any prints (archival) with the 3D effect in place?

... talk about a great release for super 8!

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Timothy Ramzyk
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I had this one, it is nice and designed by one of my favorite animator/artists Paul Julian. He did a lot of credits horror movies too like THE TERROR, DEMENTIA 13, and ATTACK OF THE CRAB MONSTERS.

I sold a pristine print of this myself about ten years ago on Ebay, the cover is cool, it's in Volume one of my Monster Box series.

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Osi Osgood
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- posted December 15, 2012 12:35 PM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Timothy ...

May I have your permission to use that photo of your box for my auction? My cover looks identical (in color, image and condition) as your box cover.

OSI

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Michael O'Regan
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Was this title also released in Super 8?

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Osi Osgood
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Micheal, I honestly do not know. I have never seen it on super 8, but then, I don't know as much as I think I know about super 8 and it's possible that it was, as Columbia did release the UPA cartoons in color and sound on super 8.

I think it depends on whether this was a good seller on Standard 8mm. If it wasn't, they probably wouldn't continue to print it on super 8.

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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I've never known it in S/8, much like their release of "First Men
in the Moon",regretfully std 8 only.

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Timothy Ramzyk
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quote:
Timothy ...

May I have your permission to use that photo of your box for my auction? My cover looks identical (in color, image and condition) as your box cover.

OSI
Sure, go for it

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Douglas Meltzer
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- posted December 15, 2012 03:58 PM      Profile for Douglas Meltzer   Email Douglas Meltzer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Michael,

The 1971 catalog has Tell Tale Heart listed without the disclaimer "Only available in Standard 8mm", however I've never seen a Super 8mm print of it. It was removed from the 1973 catalog proper, but still listed in the sound section index.

Doug

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Michael O'Regan
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I'm pretty certain it exists on 16, in any case.

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Timothy Ramzyk
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I know someone with an IB-Tech 16mm print. It's also been lovingly restored for the TCM DVD boxed-set JOLLY FROLICS that features the cream of the UPA crop.

I had the regular 8mm sound print, but never a regular 8mm sound projector to project it with.

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Michael O'Regan
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quote:
I know someone with an IB-Tech 16mm print.
Brilliant.

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Osi Osgood
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IB tech, that must be awesome to see!

I forgot to mention on the auction, (and it might help someone who knows they're film stocks to date this specific print), it's on Geveart Belium film stock and not the common eastman, so this print might be before Eastman started to even be used as a general rule.

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Adrian Winchester
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I also have never seen a Super 8 print - the replies here seem to make it pretty conclusive that it was only released on Std 8. I used to have a print that a previous owner had apparently attempted to add some colour tints to via some sort of dying process! I presume Columbia only offered it in b/w, unless anyone knows otherwise.

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Timothy Ramzyk
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Oh my. I am guilty of coloring a 200 ft. Castle digest of PSYCHO once. I got it in a Blackhawk Films "grab-bag" offer, & I had no use for silent digests at the time.

Later when I had a job in a photo lab, I made 4" x 5" internegative frame enlargements from the print just for S & G's. The negs produced surprisingly neat "artsy" images due to the graininess of the blow-up.

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Osi Osgood
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There! put that new photo on that auction! I'll look it up, but I wonder if the artist, Paul Julian, being an animator, actually worked for UPA productions (I think he did) and was actually one of the animators on this actual film?

If he was, that makes the cover even more special!

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Joe Caruso
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There were no S8 prints on this, limited run in Std 8 Sound - That's from Shorty

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Timothy Ramzyk
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quote:
There! put that new photo on that auction! I'll look it up, but I wonder if the artist, Paul Julian, being an animator, actually worked for UPA productions (I think he did) and was actually one of the animators on this actual film?

If he was, that makes the cover even more special!
I think Julian was the director of this one. That may be someone else's rendering of his work on the cover though.

Julian was know for his striking, modern-looking backdrops and scenery for Warner and Columbia cartoons. He illustrated a book (beautifully) named PICCOLI that I'd love to get my hands on some day.

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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This film was actually made in 3D, Produced by Stephen Bosustow
Directed by Ted Parmelee, Art by Paul Julian,Made in 1953 by
UPA 8 mins colour.

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Timothy Ramzyk
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I've heard very conflicting things about the the 3-D part. From, it was never made in 3-D just conceived as a potential 3-D project to it was made in 3-D, but never released in 3-D.

I've never met anyone who'd seen it in 3-D in any case, and Columbia made those 3-D There Stooges shorts, so they weren't against 3-D short subjects.

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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Hi Timothy,it's listed in Walt Lees Reference Guide which is a
very reliable source.It may even have been conceived as a 3D
film, the set ups would allude to that, much like the Christopher
Lee film,"I, Monster",where very strange angles were used in
filming.

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Timothy Ramzyk
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Oh it's easy to see it as potentially 3-D film, not because they toss a lot of stuff at the audience, but there is clearly a sense of deep perspective in the settings. The relatively static nature of the animation would also have lent itself well multi-depth planes similar to how most 3-D comics looked.

It wouldn't have been the first film to be shot in 3-D and not released or given extremely limited release in 3-D though. Sadly, it's also not uncommon for studios not to have preserved both the left and right eye prints after the 3-D bubble burst, leaving only 2-D the option for the future.

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