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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted January 25, 2012 09:01 PM
Hi all,
Remember my previous post regarding "Waiting for my large order...!" , there I wrote about my latest find of 30+ cartoons.
I promised to share the screen shot and here we go.
But please understand that this is not a review since I haven't seen them but only screening them for a couple minutes to let me taking some screen shots.
Secondly, most of them are in white boxes (no artwork) so I don't know who released them.
Thirdly, most of them are printed without any film stock mark.
Lastly, screen shots were taken by a digital camera with auto setting was on. So some are seen better than others, and some are lighter/darker while they are actually the same print.
The reason I am putting them here just because I never heard them in many years of my collecting. Most of super 8mm cartoons I knew so far are those the usual Walt Disney, WB from Techno, Woody Woodpecker, Andy Panda, Chilly Willy, T&J from Walton/MGM, Inspector, Pink Panther and sort of.
If in any rate the following titles are also usual titles for your case, please forgive my ignorance.
Last but not least, some of titles are banned in the US due to the political incorrectness at today's standard. You can discuss about the 8mm related matters but please do not discuss the political side, as it is not our cup of tea in this forum.
I provide the youtube link of the same film below the screen shot, where you can compare the 8mm print quality AND to express your thought about the political side.
So let me start with this:
Inki and the Minah Bird (1943)
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djxnw090EeE
My observation, the super 8mm print is better than the youtube, isn't it? [ January 26, 2012, 10:08 PM: Message edited by: Winbert Hutahaean ]
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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted January 28, 2012 10:18 AM
Bill, thanks for the rate.
The following is a kinda weird Donald Duck's film for today's Walt Disney standard. This is not a racism film, and this is not Cinderella nor the Slepping Bauty as well as the Jungle Book.
From the title itself, we knew that this is not usual. The title is "Donald Duck: Der Fuehrer's Face". It is an anti-Nazi propaganda film.
I have just knew this type of film but may be plenty during WWII released by parties involved in war.
This title was first released on 1 januari 1943, and received an Academy Award for best short animation on a specific subject in 1942-1943. The song that was used in the film became famous on its own and became a hit when Spike Jones played it.
I don't know how often this title shows up in 8mm format, but it does exist in 16mm. Today, I checked on Ebay there is the same title on 16mm offered for $149!!.
Here is the screen shots:
Donald Duck: Der Fuehrer's Face (1943)
The print is on LPP but the colors are not that strong like the previous ones. I guess this is due to the lab problems (filter?/negative?). But the title cards are strong like usual Disney prints on LPP.
The you tube link to compare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpgSYbrw09g
it says:
quote: Donald Duck starring in the funny classic cartoon Der Fuehrer's Face describing the comedic stance on nazi life through american propaganda
Synopsis:
quote: Directed by Jack Kinney. Donald Duck is awakened by a marching band (Comprised of Hirohito, Goering and Musolini) playing "Der Fuehrer's Face" as it passes by Donald Duck's house. Then, his Adolph Hitler alarm clock goes off. He awakes, has a poor breakfast with stale bread. Then he goes to an army factory where he works in the production of ammunition brainwashed by the Nazi propaganda. Donald Duck has a nervous breakdown with the stressed situation but when he awakes, he finds that he had a nightmare and he actually lives in United States of America.
What is your rarity rate for this title?
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Osi Osgood
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posted January 28, 2012 12:27 PM
It's no doubt down to the source material. I have an LPP print of "A Tale of Two Kitties" (Warner Brothers, 1942, I believe), and while it's LPP, the source material was absolutely atrocious and so it looked faded from the get go ...
... and that is no doubt the situation with this print. It's definitely not an official WDHM release. However, at least, being LPP, the color will not get worse. Keep up the great work, though it's not mine, I'm quite proud of this great haul you made on these shorts!
-------------------- "All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
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posted January 30, 2012 09:37 AM
The following title is not banned anywhere, so it's safe for kids. However, I never heard this title released before, "Willie the Operatic Whale" (aka "The Whale Who Wanted to Sing at the Met") originally released by Walt Disney in 1946. For super 8mm release this title is spooled in 400' reel (14 minutes +)
IMDB says: quote: The Metropolitan Opera is looking for the sea monster reported in newspaper headlines, because this monster sings beautifully! The "monster" is actually Willie, a whale who can sing in several voices simultaneously. A friend of his, a gull called Whitey, tells him about the searching ship, and Willie goes to audition, as it's been his ambition to perform on stage. Unfortunately, Professor Tetti Tatti from the Opera believes that one or more singers have been swallowed by the whale, and need to be rescued.
Willie the Operatic Whale (1946) As you can see above, the print is absolutely gorgeous!. Colors are very strong in any aspects. Print is very pin sharp. You can see on the newspaper where we can still read all small letters. Here is the original screen shot for the newspaper scenes, and you can say that this 8mm is in par with 16mm quality. Here is youtube link to compare the 8mm print and video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypnjuQjACXI You can see that 8mm prints beats video in terms of color and sharpness. I have been searching on this forum is print has ever been mentioned. The result was only twice. Once where Ian O'Reilly put it on his list and the other one when one-post member was offering this title for $100. I don't know how rare is this title but I heard this one was released by Derann (?). So perhaps this title is between rating 3 to 4 on rarity rating. What do you think? cheers, winbert
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