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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted March 07, 2018 11:47 AM
well, a good deal of the problem (?) is what some folks, who have the cash to spread around, will pay for a super 8 feature.
A case in point was an ebay auction recently for a L.P.P. derann feature of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit". I knew I couldn't afford it at the 600.00 dollar amount (how much it was when i first saw it), but I decided to watch the ebay auction and it got to a rediculously high amount of 1,100.00 dollars!!
Now, I certainly love this film, but i would never pay that much. The problem is, other people will see that staggering amount and will then assume that they're copy is also worth that, so they jack up they're prices as well. Hey, you can't really blame them for wanting to make as much as they can for they're specific print of the film ...
... but it totally prices out of the running us middle class poor slobs from getting those long treasured feature films. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Tom Photiou
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posted March 07, 2018 11:53 AM
As i have said many times, i wont ever pay stupid prices for a movie, at the end of the day thats what it is , A Movie. For those who have the dosh etc then good on them but i live in the real world and also have a life outside of the hobby.
Having said that, all these prices will do is put off anyone who is even just thinking about joining the hobby.
This subject has been covered many times on the forums but others will just say it's supply and demand, unfortunately i dont buy that, if the only way you could watch a film or project a film was with the machines we have then i would understand it, but you can buy top quality digital forms of projection which cost less than some top end projectors and the films on Blu ray are peanuts of the price of cine films with fade and scratches. Ours is a hobby, quite an expensive one, (as many hobby's are) but before to many more years pass there will be fewer good projectors to show films on. Then what will the value of films do? ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Mark Mander
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From: Dunstable ,Bedfordshire.
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posted March 07, 2018 01:29 PM
I'm with Tom on this,digital projection is more appealing on titles that are over priced,over the years I've been lucky enough to own some very nice titles,sold a lot of them now but that's fine also as I've watched them on real film and had the experience of doing so,as a title went I bought the DVD or bluray,I still have a decent sized collection but haven't been buying lately mainly due to paying good money for films not as described,that's one of the pitfalls of the hobby now,greed and selling over priced crap,Mark
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Tom Photiou
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posted March 07, 2018 02:44 PM
Exactly Mark, as you know we have ventured into 16mm, once i get my max titles it will stay at that, so far this year i haven't bought any super 8, again, for the same reasons as Mark, a few i bought were not quite as good as i expected, or the prices are laughable, one or two i was not happy with, but, if someone has a big big bank account then fair enough but unfortunately its the principle of paying the price of a good second hand car for a movie that you may watch a few times in as many years.
Apart from that, 16mm has taught me one thing, the amount of better titles out there with an almost guaranteed quality is more appealing, especially the prices, i know even with this gauge premium titles are going through the roof now but thats where digital projection will call into play. Let me think, Raiders of the lost Ark feature on super 8? upward toward a thousand pounds? The same on 16mm? Or a Blu ray with all the extra's, no scratches, no splices, never fade, £10. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) And projected onto the same screen as my cine.
I know its not the same but i can live with that as we have amassed a good collection over the years like most of us. Being mid 50's now the reality of it all is starting to kick in.
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted March 08, 2018 11:23 AM
Yes, most definitely, a passion!
... and then, there's the bargains! i just bought from the U.K. an L.P.P. RKO pictures full feature of "The Girl most likely" (1958, an enjoyable musical) for just 27 pounds, so the bargains are certainly out there as well.
I was the one that bid up "Old Mill to 21 pounds, and got outbid at the last moment, but I'm certainly glad that I didn't win it, hearing that the other screenshots were NOT from the print. I know i had a print of that title on low fade film stock, but about 40 seconds into film the preprint material went from gorgeous color to very bluish, and i noticed that the pictures showing the actual frames only went up to about 40 or so seconds, so I'm betting that the rest of the print had that bluish color.
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Joe Caruso
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posted March 08, 2018 01:51 PM
Film, like many hobbies will fluctuate with the technology that follows, i.e. digital - Now, I've never ventured to feature-length films from Derann and other outfits, so I really have little to add on this debate - Only Blackhawk, with L&H features and such, all well and good with prices that never are truly unreasonable nowadays - I remained with shorts and such novelties because many are not on Blu-Ray, I eagerly hound about for the best price on these used subjects whether in original box or not - When I had a large 16mm collection, again I went with the fairest prices and would never go beyond what I felt a film's value was or is - Okay, in 16, I had PHANTOM, GENERAL and other longer-films, but again most under $200 - Today, I wouldn't touch them - So, I kept with the smaller gauges of 8, Super 8, even some 9.5 - Prices generally aren't too high, though EBAY kills many chances - Well, had to throw my nickel on this - Go ahead on - Shorty
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