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Mike Newell
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posted March 14, 2018 02:57 PM

Hi Mark

Yes , the trailer looks exciting. Shame about the other 138 minutes. I'm away to watch Fahrenheit 451 hoping to be impressed!

Mike

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Tom Photiou
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posted March 14, 2018 03:28 PM

I did a short review of the 2001 trailer on the other channel, have to say thats as long as i want as well. I'm sure its a milestone film but i sat through the whole scope feature once when it was lent to me. It was more exciting watching the reels going around on the projector.
The trailer is fine, [Wink]

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Mark Todd
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posted March 14, 2018 04:39 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAi7l3iQuE

Well I`m not sure which Kubrick I like best.

Probably FMJ.

But my current favourite film is Night of the Demon 1957.( among many I suppose ).

Be nice to have that on an affordable and decent 16mm print.

I bet David has one somewhere.

Best Mark.

PS the visuals in 2001 for the time are amazing though, but not the narrative etc really.

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Joe Caruso
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posted March 14, 2018 04:48 PM

maybe I posted all my jibber-jabber on the wrong area

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Mark Mander
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posted March 14, 2018 05:47 PM

Gone with the wind trailer is enough too,it's another film that fetches high prices now but probably one to own as you wouldn't want to screen it very often so most prints will be like new!!!! Personally I wouldn't want a print whatever the cost but the trailer is good,Mark

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted March 14, 2018 11:07 PM

There is another issue raised by Bob Loehr that in not part of the original topic of exorbitant price.

Bob Loehr wrote:

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Currently he is offering THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME (6 reels, probably a Niles print) on this very forum for 150 Euros. He purchased this print from a fellow collector on ebay for just 86 Euro 3 days ago.

If we see the link Bob has given above:

- The listing ended on March 11, 2018 at 07:23:09 PM
- Alexander Prell listed it in this forum on March 12, 2018 at 03:01 AM

That is less than one day!

How fast is the German post to deliver the item so Alexander could re-list it here?. I doubt it...so as Alexander says above, this must be a different print.

For me, it is absolutely the seller's right to price the item at whatever he/she wanted. If it is too high, as Doug has mentioned here, it won't sell.

But slandering other people's sale and making a false accusation it is not a nice move.

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Tom Photiou
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posted March 15, 2018 07:44 AM

Who's slandering?

Anyone has a right to put up a price? If they know what they are selling, or at least have a knowledge of what they are selling then i agree, but when they clearly have no idea of what they are selling, (descriptions of "i cannot project it as i have no projector to test it, or, this was in a house clearance or loft), then i for one, will call them what i think they are, greedy money makers hoping to pray on people who themselves may not be sure about, if you dont know what you have for sale then at least start the pricing low. There will then be a good chance of selling it, and also, possibly for a much higher amount than than you might expect.

Thomas's main point here does seem to have gone off the boil a bit, like any hobby in the world, there will always be some greed of sorts. The best way to bring prices down is for people to stop paying those very high prices, then sure as night follows day, the prices will have to fall or they will be kept by the seller, [Wink]

Here is another example of an exorbitant price. BUT, if this was re-listed at 14.99 i bet it would fly upto around 40 maybe 50, even that, IMO is too high for a 200 footer but then at least that is up to the people buying rather than someone trying far too hard to make a fast buck, or should i say pound!
https://www.ebay.c o.uk/itm/DALEKS-INVASION-EARTH-SUPER-8-SCOPE-RARE-CINE-FILM-COLOUR-SOUND-for-projector/292472193208?hash=item4418b380b8:g:AT8AAOSwBRVaZ3I2

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Brian Fretwell
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posted March 15, 2018 08:08 AM

Not 200ft but about 100ft I have that trailer and both Walton 200ft extracts on a 400ft spool. 8 minutes to go for it now and no bids.

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Mark Todd
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posted March 15, 2018 08:20 AM

I hope no one actually paid that for it and there is the old Rare word again, there are loads of copies this trailer about.

Rare, Retro, Vintage, etc etc mumble on and so on.

Its ironic you can actually get far better and fairer deals off the old school dealers these days.

And the still fair collectors.

Best Mark.

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted March 15, 2018 09:47 AM

Tom,

To answer your reply to Winbert of "Who's slandering?", the reference in Winbert's post specifically refers to Bob Loehr's posting about Alexander Prell's sale, the details of which Alexander completely refutes.

Doug

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Tom Photiou
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posted March 15, 2018 10:42 AM

Thanks for clearing that up Doug. [Wink]

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Osi Osgood
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posted March 15, 2018 11:19 AM

I agree with you Tom on that earlier post ...

Gee ... were keeping the Meltzer quite busy ... aint we? [Wink]

(Though I so seriously wish prices were lower).

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Mike Newell
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posted March 15, 2018 01:44 PM

Gone with the Wind is a hard feature to sell. Like most long films such as Ben Hur Doctor Zhivago and Titanic whilst they have great scenes they do tend to drag and you don't tend to watch them too often. There was a copy of GWTW that was left over from a sale of films when a collector died and I was offered it for round the £100 mark . I was tempted to buy and edit it down to 2 hour mark by cutting out the boring bits and then throw the useless bit out. Maybe I should post this on the other thread😥😥

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Mark Mander
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posted March 15, 2018 02:03 PM

Mike,
If you cut all the boring bits then you pretty much end up with the trailer!!! Mark

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Steve Klare
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posted March 15, 2018 02:07 PM

Take heart!

I've heard the book was MUCH longer!

-apparently the movie skipped a couple of husbands before Rhett Butler took his turn!

No denying it's a classic, and I wouldn't turn down a print if the deal was good, but that's a lot of film to store for the once, maybe twice a year I'd view it.

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Mike Newell
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posted March 15, 2018 02:17 PM

Mark I thought I was cruel 😝😝 if it was That's Entertaiment 1 2 & 3 I could make ia nice 40 -50 minutes cutdown between the 3 movies. I do have some nice unique mini features out there in circulation The French Connection, El Cid , That's Entertainment and Ben Hur. In the case of Ben Hur I was a victim of adding too much. I was fine up until I passed 80-90 minute mark. One white box from Derann too many and it just changed the pace.

Mike

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Mark Mander
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posted March 15, 2018 03:59 PM

Mike,
You do know Ben Hur was a 400ft release!!! Ha ha:) [Eek!]

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Tom Photiou
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posted March 15, 2018 04:03 PM

My Brother has GWTW, i think in the 15 years we have had it he has viewed it 4 maybe 5 times. I know its a classic but it isn't for me. As already said, this is where the cut downs come into there own. Although, oddly enough, Dances with Wolves is film i will watch at least once a year, although it is a long film it fly's by. Price wise for Gone with The wind, i am often surprised how cheap it does go for. For those who own it, the price you may get makes it worth hanging onto. Ours is mounted onto 4 x 1200ft spools so you can choose to watch it as a mini series,one or two reels per week. [Wink]

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Mark Mander
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posted March 15, 2018 04:14 PM

Wow Tom 4 or 5 times!!! He must be a patient man,not my thing at all but apparently a nice print image wise,don't let Mike near it as he's scissor happy!!!Mark

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Tom Photiou
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posted March 15, 2018 04:17 PM

i managed to sit through it once, then the second time for the wife its was done over four nights. I slept well those nights [Big Grin]

It's nice to own a classic but i would definatly prefer Kelly's Heroes on IB Tech scope or a bridge too far. [Wink]

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Mark Mander
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posted March 15, 2018 04:41 PM

Two good films Tom,I'm with you there,Mark

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Graham Ritchie
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posted March 15, 2018 05:39 PM

Tom

I totaly agree with "Dances With Wolves", its a film I could also watch once a year, the photos you took of it on the forum look stunning [Cool]

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted March 15, 2018 09:11 PM

Kelly's Heroes? Off topic but Don Rickles is great as Crapgame. Time to start singing along with "Burning Bridges"....

Doug

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David Hardy
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posted March 16, 2018 09:15 AM

So there you go different strokes for different folks.

I would rather screen GWTW and Doctor Zhivago any day than screen a copy of Kelly's Heroes which although fun and of its time I think is utter nonsense. I thought that away back then and still do. [Big Grin]

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Mark Mander
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posted March 16, 2018 10:19 AM

Definitely David,we can't all like the same things hence why prices for some films fetch more than others,Mark

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