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Topic: Exorbitant prices for super 8
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Tom Photiou
Film God
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From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted March 09, 2018 05:52 PM
some good points there mike,
one thing to keep in mind,
Winbert, your argument of inflation works against you, your comparing with 1976, back then the dollar was worth about 40p so the cost of films worked out to be the same on both sides of the Atlantic, you are equating today's dollar against 1976, our pound was buoyant then as it was a few years ago.
[ March 13, 2018, 11:04 AM: Message edited by: Douglas Meltzer ]
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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted March 09, 2018 06:19 PM
Tom that brandnew £29 is equal to £198 in 2018. So if at that time a 400' second hand was £5...then it is £30 now.
But we can still pay for £15 now at Barry's...so actually secondhand films price is cheaper now.
If you pay £300s for a secondhand F/L, I would say that is cheap.
Looking at the inflation rate cannot be seen only on one aspect (e.g salary). You need to see it from the whole aspects of life in the UK, even unto the global context.
As to "complaining" ...I can see from this post, not directed to you, but to the initial poster when saying:
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Some of the prices for 8 mm features on the forum are very exorbitant. .... Super8 is a limited market lets see some reasonable prices.
What...do you want to get cheap price for films?...you never get it, especially in today's world when Derann is no longer exist.
Prints become rare and rarer...and the common market situation will tell when supply and demand are not equal, the price will go up.
If we cannot pay the today's film price...just turn our hobby to Bluray and I believe we can still get new and unfaded color films....plus dolby digital 5.1 sound.
Or if we still love the moving pictures, buy 16mm that is said to be cheaper...or 35mm if you want to get even cheaper.
They are better price, better picture...but we will deal with storage problem.
Our live is a matter of choice, as simple as that.
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Winbert
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Tom Photiou
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From: Plymouth U.K
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posted March 10, 2018 01:13 AM
Agree Oliver,
Thomas, thats much more like it,
and of course,as you say, i would also pay a little more for a top title, taking a step back it is of course everyones choice as to what they pay, if your on a good wage of say 60g or much more than 500 to a grand probably isnt much to you but my principles and normal workings man wage tells me what is sensible for a film so from this year of 2018 the chances of me owning jurasic park,james bond speed or the likes are nil. Funnily enough thats the same chance of super 8 only owners owning full features of witness,zulu and dances with wolves and all 3 of these together would cost less than one of some titles on super 8 ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Robert Crewdson
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: UK
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted March 10, 2018 04:00 AM
Winbert, my job was factory work, my better rate of pay may have been nights, it's a long time ago. Then in the late 80s I got a job working nights in Tesco Supermarkets, and before I left they paid £7 an hour. Now we come forward to the beginning of 2017 and my wife applied for a job in what they call the hospitality sector, serving people, and they offered her £7 an hour, which she turned down. I'm sure that you would have to agree that the cost of living has risen in the last 30 or 40 years, but some of the wages offered are the same. I've explained everything as well as I can, I can't go through it all again. As the saying goes, You can lead a horse to water.............
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted March 10, 2018 06:41 AM
I guess this is going to be my last post. This type of post of complaining the today's film price has been in this forum for about 3 times. This is kind of boring now as boring as digital vs. film post.
Whatever you are going to say about the UK domestic condition on the wages, I will not change my statement that:
a. Because of the inflation rate, the value of £150 in 1980 is equal to £611.49 in 2018. This has been calculated by the economists not a film collector. You pay £350 for a F/L now is considered cheap.
b. You don't want to pay £350 for a F/L...fine...you can wait, there is no harm, but someone else will pay. It is nothing to do with you and you cannot blame the seller nor the buyer. It is a free market, please respect it.
c. After a long period of waiting and the said title does not come up at your desired price, you can find an alternative, such as buying 16mm, 35mm or a £3 DVD. Whatever your choice that is fine too. as long as you can watch films.
Our life is very short, please make everything simple.
cheers,
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