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Paul Adsett
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There are many great looking projectors around - in fact to most film collectors any projector looks great! But some are a whole lot more impressive than others. In general, I think the projectors of metal construction are better looking than those of plastic construction, and most of the time they seem to perform better.
Here are my votes for the best looking cine projectors:

Regular 8mm
Nominees: Bolex M8, Bolex 18-5, Eumig p8, Bell & Howell 606/Regent
And the winner is.................Bell & Howell 606/Regent

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Super 8mm Sound
Nominees: Elmo GS1200, Eumig S938, Heurtier Stereovox
And the winner is...................Heurtier Stereovox

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9.5mm
Nominees: Pathescope GEM, Pathescope SON, Pathescope 200B
And the winner is....................Pathescope 200B

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[ May 29, 2009, 02:56 PM: Message edited by: Paul Adsett ]

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Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
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Dino Everette
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Paul I totally agree with you on the 200B (The only one my wife has allowed to be displayed in my house) and the Heurtier Stereovox (I finally found a pressure plate for mine so it is soon to be complete), although I am not as familiar with the reg 8 bell & howell I'll have to look that one up.....

I would like to add one of my all time favorites and one I hope to own someday in a new category

Multi-Gauge
the nominees are Specto 500 dual 9.5/16 / Bolex G3 8,9.5,16/ and Heurtier Super Panoralux 9,5 , 16mm
and the winner is........Heurtier Super Panoralux 9,5 , 16mm

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Paul Adsett
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I have to agree Dino- that one beats them all! Heurtier certainly designed some stunning looking projectors.

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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj

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Kevan Ellis
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- posted May 29, 2009 07:05 PM      Profile for Kevan Ellis   Email Kevan Ellis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul
great topic

I saw a keystone model 160 16mm projector at a yard sale two weeks ago and I fell for it right away. It now sits atop an Edison floor model and after cleaning and oiling it, it works great.

One question though, Are the old machines hard on film?

Thanks
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Paul Adsett
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Hi Kevan,
I would say that it depends on the make of the projector. The old Bell and Howell's, like the 606H shown above, were designed and built to professional 16mm standards, with the best quality materials and superb finish on all the parts. Same goes for the old Bolex's like the M8 and the 18-5 which have superb quality. On the other hand, the more recent super 8 Bell and Howell's, with plastic construction and down-marketed for places like Sears and K-mart are just not in the same league quality wise, and I have had severe scratching from some of these machines. Eumig's of any age or model are extremely kind to film - I have never had a single scratch from a Eumig projector. The Eumig designers really knew their stuff. Most Pathe 9.5mm equipment is notorious for being hard on film. Avoid Keystone, Chinon, GAF, and all the Super 8 Kodaks, with the exception of the truly superb Kodak M100. If you want a good 9.5mm projector follow Dino's advice and get a Specto. Stay with Elmo, Eumig, Sankyo, Bauer, and Bolex and you ca'nt go far wrong.

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Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
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Patrick Walsh
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Best 16mm projector I think is around also a Ampro Stylist but I could not find a pic of one.

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Paul Adsett
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Patrick,
I found this ad for the Sylist in the May 1951 Amateur Cine World:

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Anymore entries to the Projector beauty contest?

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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Or weightlifting contest? [Big Grin]

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Jim Carlile
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My vote for the classic look is the Revere 85 and its matching 16mm twin, which is suspiciously similar to the B&H 606 made in the same city of Chicago.

For moderns, how about the Eumig 926 and the Bauer 610 as best looking?

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Patrick Walsh
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How about one of these??
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Here is a Ampro Stylist Major Mk2 -

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Graham Sinden
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My vote for the best looking Super 8 projector would have to be that good old Elmo ST1200. All that silver with green and yellow plastic makes it look a stunner.
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Barry Johnson
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Toei Talkie standard8mm sound machine.The only one that actually performed as good as it looked.

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David Pannell
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For me, it's the Ampro Stylist Major Mk2 too. Looks stunning in the flesh!

I actually have one of these machines - it runs like silk - pretty darn quiet - and is kind to films. Manual threading to boot!

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Paul Adsett
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David,
Was the Ampro a British or American design?

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Martin Jones
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Paul,
It was an American Machine; the firm Kelvin Hughes made them in the UK for Ampro.One of my earlier posts on a different thread mentions them from when I worked in the old Kelvin Hughes factory in Basingstoke....

http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=000421#000002

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Paul Adsett
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Thank's Martin. There must be a lot of Ampro's floating around the UK, as they seem to have been heavily advertised in ACW.

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Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
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Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj

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Michael O'Regan
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Ampros turn up quite regularly on Ebay - unfortunately a lot of them come out of lofts where they've been "rusting" for years.

I do like the look of those Heurtier projectors. I would love to get one, though I've been led to believe that they are technically not so great.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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Paul's Bell & Howell 606/Regent is absolutely FANTASTIC. But my vote goes to the Silma Memory 90. All in plastic, but so nice! I'm in love with it!

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Steven J Kirk
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I like the Silma. It has the design of the Empire in 'Star Wars'. You can see it on the Death Star...

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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Steven, you are right! Very similar. Wow!

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Patrick Walsh
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Best std 8mm by far.
Pat [Big Grin]

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frank arnstein
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Hi to all the posters on this thread....
I couldn't resist responding after seeing the Elmo ST1200 that has been pictured.
Thats my Elmo st1200 & thats my picture we are looking at. I wonder how it got here. hehehehe...
Anyway, as no real good pic of a B&H 606 has been sent in, here is one I just took of mine. It goes well & I have just test run it. Will also put up a pic of a big Ampro I have that looks very impressive & is a favorite of mine. Hope no one objects.

dogtor pufferfish
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John W. Black
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Funny how some of the beat looking ones are the worst machines.The Heurtier looks so great,but what a useless doorstop of a machine!Best looking std 8,The Keystone K109,!6mm,The Jan machines

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frank arnstein
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Hi again to all looking at the best looking vintage projector contest.
Here is a pic I have of an Ampro I had till recently.
Its not a Stylist or a Major but a 16mm monster that weighs heaps.
I thought it was one of the most impressive projector I had seen.
What do others think of this pic?
dogtor pufferfish
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Dino Everette
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Whoah frank that looks like it is made out of lead! [Eek!]

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