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Tom Photiou
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posted July 05, 2018 04:13 PM

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Tonight was a big viewing for us. This is a film i really do enjoy although unfortunately, this one appears to be possibly a TV cut as it is edited for violence which, with this film, makes the whole viewing a bit dampened, especially as the 600ft Super 8 version has most of the bits in it that are edited out of this feature, However, what you do you want? The 30 minute super 8 version with a fading image but with the blood n guts in, or this two hour scope version with excellent image and colour, a few censored bits, and in this case, (and i knew this upon purchasing) a few jumpy bits where there is some damage on reel two, and at the very start of reel one?
In my case, i will now buy the Blu ray uncut edition as all the super 8 ones are now fading, (the one i have for sale on ebay is one of the much better ones) and i dont know when a full uncut theatrical version will show up on 16mm.
So, overall, we had a good viewing tonight of a classic Eastwood western.
It's great to see this on the big scope screen though.

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Holger Kiebler
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posted July 07, 2018 10:37 AM

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Hi Tom,
good looking pictures. This is a movie I have not seen for years.
With Clint Eastwood an entertaining evening is safe :-).

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Tom Photiou
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posted July 07, 2018 12:16 PM

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Thanks Holger, it is a good film, there are not many Eastwood films i dont enjoy. [Wink]

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Holger Kiebler
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posted July 07, 2018 12:45 PM

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Yesterday my projector have had the pleasure to produce:
Skull-A night of Terror or also known as Don´t turn out the Light.
This is a little amiable canadian horror-,action-exploiter of mine.
A canadian production from 1987 by Robert Bergman.

The Print:
This is an ex-rental razor-sharp AGFA print with almost no wear.
It looks like that this print was not lend really often, under my opinion, this movie didn´t hit the flavour of a big audience :-).

The story: Two police officers escort a violent prisoner and his companions to a jail. While the drive over land, they get into an ambush and the criminals get free. They escape to a farm house in which the family of one of the escorting police officers lives.
If you assume, that the bad guys do held the police officer´s family hostage and this police officer get on a deadly rampage to wipe them out one by one, to safe his family, you are right :-).

This is no award-worthy movie, but a real entertainy bad ass flick.
Enjoy the images.

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Tom Photiou
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posted July 16, 2018 03:35 PM

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great screenshots as always. [Wink]

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Brian Stearns
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posted July 16, 2018 11:53 PM

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DAWN OF THE DEAD and CARRIE

were not shot in scope

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Tom Photiou
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posted July 21, 2018 01:41 AM

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Last night we viewed this excellent action packed,fact based war film, many of its actors went onto become big cinema and TV stars including, Woody Strode, Harry Guardino, Robert Blake, Norman Fell, Abel Fernandez, Gavin MacLeod, Harry Dean Stanton, and Martin Landau. A good b/w print with some light wear mainly at the start and end of the reels.

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David Skillern
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posted July 21, 2018 10:34 AM

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Hi Tom,
After Tuesday I'm on my 6 week break - and ive still got 7 or 8 16mm features to watch - so looking forward to that. High Plains Drifter looks like a great print - a shame its edited for TV - I try to avoid those prints if I can as I can always get uncut prints on blu ray and project via my NEC LCD projector linked to my Yamaha Sound Processor.

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Mike Williamson
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posted July 22, 2018 03:15 PM

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Quote Brian Stearns- posted July 16, 2018 11:53 PM
“DAWN OF THE DEAD and CARRIE were not shot in scope “

Right. I mentioned the pics of Steven’s prints he posted were letterboxed (not scope) which is unusual for 16mm prints of flat titles. The fact that they were both letterboxed 1:85 flat prints, both lowfade, and both seemingly lab new made me question if they were “reel” 16mm prints, struck from pure film elements, or if they were struck recently by Marco in Italy from a Blu-ray or DVD (which seems more likely to me judging from the pics)

Steven, care to confirm this?

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Tom Photiou
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posted July 26, 2018 02:43 PM

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David,
I am looking forward to your posts on these. You will love that 16mm. I know i do. [Wink]

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Can Sanalan
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posted July 27, 2018 08:45 AM

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Out of curiosity if films are struck from a Blu Ray or dvd source how is the sound transferred? Is it optical or magnetic in those cases?

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Mike Williamson
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posted July 28, 2018 01:35 AM

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The guy who makes these digital to 16mm print strikes an optical soundtrack on the prints.

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Panayotis A. Carayannis
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posted July 28, 2018 03:25 AM

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Tom, why do you neglect to mention the titles of the films?

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Tom Photiou
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posted July 28, 2018 05:30 AM

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Errr. Which part of the thread?

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David Hardy
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posted July 28, 2018 05:43 AM

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Tom i think its the Clint Eastwood western at the top of this page he is referring to. No film title mentioned. [Wink]

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Tom Photiou
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posted July 28, 2018 06:49 AM

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Sorry Chaps,
High plains drifter [Wink]

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As it happens i have now gone through the film foot by foot, done a few repairs and it now looks better, (after a firmguard clean), and also flows through much better without all the jumpy bits. so all in all, things are now much better. Still TV edited but one way or another i will sort that. [Wink]

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Mike Williamson
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posted August 02, 2018 06:29 PM

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Looks like rather than answer my query about whether his 16mm DAWN OF THE DEAD and CARRIE prints were blu ray to film kinescopes from Marco in Italy, Steve decided to delete those posts with the pics of them. (shrug)

I do hope, if people are making complete features using this process, that that info is being disclosed if they sell the print. I'd be pretty upset if I paid for a lowfade title and it showed up and was a bluray to film transfer.

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Bill Phelps
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posted August 02, 2018 06:50 PM

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Actually he did answer your questions...you are correct, it is what you suspected. Then that post got deleted.

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Mike Williamson
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posted August 03, 2018 04:29 PM

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Ah, ok, thanks Bill. I guess I missed those before he deleted them.

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Brian Stearns
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posted August 06, 2018 03:59 AM

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Did the Admin delete or the user just get scared?

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Graham Ritchie
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posted August 27, 2018 04:44 PM

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Two night ago, the original edit of "Empire Strikes Back" Its been years since I last ran this feature print, it still looks good [Smile]

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Dave Groves
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posted August 28, 2018 08:12 AM

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Very nice screen shots graham (as always) and from what looks to be a very nice print.

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Michael De Angelis
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posted August 28, 2018 11:38 AM

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Graham,

Fantastic images and this print appears to be on LPP stock.

Empire is my favorite of all SW sequels.

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Alan Gouger
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posted August 28, 2018 12:56 PM

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"Empire Strikes Back" very nice contrast, beautiful print.

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Graham Ritchie
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posted August 28, 2018 11:29 PM

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Thanks Everyone.

There is nothing on the edge of the film to indicate its LPP, someone did suggest to me it could be a technicolor print. I don't really know. I assume its origin was a pan/scan print for TV transmission years ago. I must admit I enjoyed watching this original edit, than the later Blu-ray taken from its re-release print shown at the cinema in the late 1990s.

A couple more from that night....

The blacks look good....

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