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Janice Glesser
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- posted December 20, 2011 03:56 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just like in "Blow Out" Brian De Palma uses a movie camera to identify key actions in Dressed To Kill (1980). Does anybody know if the projector/viewer is real or just a movie invention? I can see a "GA" in the lower left of the unit...maybe for GAF? Anyone? Anyone?

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Bill Phelps
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- posted December 20, 2011 05:23 PM      Profile for Bill Phelps     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well maybe it is a motorized editor/viewer. I have one myself but I don't see any arms on that one so I'm not so sure.

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Bryan Chernick
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I don't know about the viewer but the camera looks like it is using a SOM Berthiot Pan Cinor 30 lens. That's a D-mount lens for Regular 8mm cameras. I can't tell what type of camera it is though. I recognized the lens because I have the same one on my Bolex H8.

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Janice Glesser
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Looks like this may be another B & H "Green Monster" in Miracle (2004).

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Jim Schrader
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or even a singer?

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Janice Glesser
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....and I thought Singer only made sewing machines :-)

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Gerald Santana
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In the film Strictly Ballroom we see one of the characters watching film on a projector, reminiscing of days of dancing gone by...

My VHS tape was too dark to notice what model it was...if anyone has a DVD of the film, it's about twenty minutes into the movie!

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Janice Glesser
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Ok Gerald here you go...I had Strickly Ballroom (1992), but I had a really tough time locating these screen captures. They were only on for a second or two. I'm still not sure what type of projector...maybe B&H?...or Singer as was mentioned in the previous movie.

The camera might be easier to identify. This shot was in the beginning sequence of the film.

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Gerald Santana
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Amazing! Much better clarity than the VHS...

The camera... another B&H?

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Bill Phelps
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I have one of those cameras, it is a B&H 414 or 424....the Zapruder camera.

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Janice Glesser
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Thanks Bill... you're right!....I should have noticed that from JFK :-)

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Janice Glesser
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- posted December 27, 2011 11:20 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Quiz Show (1994) has a very interesting looking projector...nothing like I've seen before.

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Gerald Santana
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Wow...that projector is a quite a tank, I wonder what it is too.

P.S. The projectionist looks like the same one from Strictly Ballroom!

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Akshay Nanjangud
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Here's an image, the best I could get, from Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa. I don't think we have this. [Smile]

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John Davis
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I think it may be a Yell & Howl

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Martin Jones
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Either the picture is reversed, or it's a left-handed one.
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Janice Glesser
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Back in 2010, Gary Crwford posted about this episode of Columbo called Forgotten Lady with guest star Janet Leigh. The clip shows her splicing together some broken 16mm film.

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Dino Everette
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I'm almost embarrassed to state this but my band has the closing song in a current D-grade horror movie called CHILLERAMAthat revolves around the closing of a drive-in movie theatre and quite a few scenes not only involve the projectors but lamenting about the physicality of film.

Also there is an episode of a Horror anthology TV show that revolved around a horror film that makes people murderously mad and one guy threads his own intestines into the projector if i remember.

Also (this may have been mentioned already, but the main characters' buddy in A LITTLE ROMANCE has access to the booth of a porno theatre...

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Mark Williams
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I actualy thought CHILLERAMA was ok,I thought the Wadzilla episode was very funny but on the whole it was a very mixed bag indeed.

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Janice Glesser
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Remember The Titans (2000) starring Denzel Washington was based on a true story. This is a scene where Denzel is watching football films just before a rock or brick is thrown through his window.

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Gerald Santana
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Dino's latest post made me remember about the beginning of True Romance, where Clarance is watching a martial arts film in a theater to celebrate his birthday. Again, I don't think you see a projector but, only it's light and some of the film on the screen.

From last night, here are a few films that feature more imaginary projectors,where you don't quite see them but, you know they are there. In The Magic Lantern (1903) from Georges Méliès, in this brief "trick film" we see two clowns assemble an enormous magic lantern which first projects moving images, then emits dancing girls:

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In Walt Disney's Puss in Boots (1922) A boy falls in love with a princess and after seeing a Rudolpho Valensino movie at the local theater, his cat has the idea that he could try impressing the king as bullfighter, to win his daughters hand. Here they are watching the fake movie "Throwing the Bull":

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And finally, we get a good glimpse into the world of silent film and it's production with A Tour of the Thomas Ince Studio (1924). A behind-the-scenes look at Thomas H. Ince Studios in Culver City, California, here we see them splicing film together ready to screen rushes for review:

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P.S. Janet Leigh working those rewinds = Awesome.

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Janice Glesser
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Yes Gerald, Janet Leigh looks like a pro. However, it was her film splicing that tipped Columbo off and pointed her as the guilty party [Cool]

This next movie The Best of Times (1986) was one of my two sons' favorite 80's movies. It starred Robin Williams and Kurt Russell who try and re-create the historical "big game" they lost in high school. It was filmed in the small town of Taft, California. Several of my Bay Area friends came from Taft.

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Janice Glesser
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I thought I'd add one more movie to this thread before 2012 arrives...at least it's not yet New Year's in California at the time of this posting. [Smile]

Here is some screen captures of projectors in The China Syndrome (1979).

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Douglas Meltzer
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Janice,

That's terrific. Love those upright Moviolas!

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Janice Glesser
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Yes...Doug. They look pretty cool. I've never actually seen one. I'm guessing they work like a giant viewer/editor. In this case they were using it in a newsroom to screen footage ...Do you know any other ways moviolas were used?

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