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Topic: Blu Ray Steelbooks, any thoughts.
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Steven J Kirk
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 873
From: Southern England
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted July 24, 2015 12:30 PM
Well, personally I love everything to do with the film industry in general. It probably is an obsession and I don't mind admitting it. I have 16mm, Super 8 and Blu-Ray/DVD through a video projector and I have posters and press books and 8x10s and film programmes too. I like nice packaging and like good clean reels for my films, even trying to match studio reels to the film where possible. Film magazines, novelisations, ( who collects those!) oh, I also have a collection of LP soundtracks too. I still buy soundtracks even though I have the whole film. Because LP artwork is nice. I have a lot of books about film, from history type stuff to academic theory and everything else in-between.
The only format I have ever really 'given up' on is laserdisc, because many of my discs got the laser rot and different versions of the system: NTSC,PAL, analogue/digital sound, different size discs, made a player to do it all problematic and expensive.
My favourite format is 16mm. A good dense print gives you an authentic cinema experience with all the sounds and smells, all the beeps, pops and academy countdown you want. BUT, the new films aren't going to be there so you need a video projector and to go that way too.
I think it is a great time to be a film buff. The video projection technology is amazing and all the films and projectors you couldn't dream of owning when you were 17 are all on eBay at frankly quite affordable prices, for the most part. I say enjoy it all.
-------------------- VistaVision Motion Picture High-Fidelity
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Mark Todd
Film God
Posts: 3846
From: UK
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted July 25, 2015 07:49 PM
Its a funny one as when you are watching Bugs life or Toy Story etc on super 8 you are actually watching digital ( put on to real film )
But when you watch say Zulu or Laurence of Arabia or say Ben Hur for instance on Blu Ray you are watching real film.
One thing is for sure you can now watch films affordably and beautifullly in the home far closer to the origional elements than you can on a real film print. But you are still essentially watching film up there.
I`ve just watched a film on Netflix on the VP 10 feet wide that looked very filmie and nice, and just looked it up and it was shot on digital.
When it comes down to it owning real film and collecting is as much about compulsion ( it is with me ), ownership, exclusivity or an idea that it is, obssession, and a step in to the hoarding arena. Also faffing on and the love of it all etc, but we are are all subject to what inside us drives us and about how it connects to us.
When you project the Laurel and Hardy Dvds on a VP they really do look so filmie, often more filmie than they do on real 8 or 16mm film.
When it comes down to it, its about what you enjoy and if discussing digital etc etc on here as well as our love of real film might just get a few more people here via searches etc that might not otherwise end up here and the odd few might, just might get interested.
What we should all try to do for the hobby is to pick up the odd nice Sankyo 501 for £15 or £20 and pop them in the loft etc and when a newbie turns up who is interested make sure one of us sends him one of those at cost and post, and a few of us send him ( or her be nice ) a few free films to get them going etc so they don`t have to suffer the vagaries of ebay and as more often than not end up being put right off.
If film does it for you, you can be secure in that and enjoy it, but I really think the wider we discuss the various ways to enjoy films now, the more opportunity there is for someone to stumble on to here and just maybe get a spark of interest and pick up the hobby.
Best Mark.
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David Skillern
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 582
From: South Wales
Registered: Apr 2006
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posted July 26, 2015 04:27 AM
Hi all,
Isn't it amazing how the discussion of one topic can turn into something else of an entirely different beast. I was bitten by the super 8 beast in the late 1970's and can't get it out of my system . My two lounges both have slightly different size screens in them and both are equipped with lcd projectors supplied by a certain Mr Todd who started the whole topic off. However my smaller screen the 7ft one in screen 1 - is where I keep all my 8mm projectors (last count 7 - ranging from an eumig 824, several elmo's 180, 1200D and 1200HD and a Fumeo 9119) and my 8mm collection - that I am still adding to - as my taste in films is quite eclectic my collection ranges from the carry ons , musicals, classic hammer and more recent horror films, action pics - I have the 3 die hard features and some great scfi like predator, Alien,Aliens, Robocop and Star Trek Generations. My wife is reasonably sympathetic - however she constantly reminds me to catalogue all of them with a price as if anything happened to me - several nice holidays would be on the cards !!!! David
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Mark Todd
Film God
Posts: 3846
From: UK
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted July 26, 2015 05:48 AM
I don`t suppose anyone who doesn`t have it isn`t going to understand that thing or buzz you get putting the film ptojector on, the threading up and that first blast and focus on to the screen.
I might have mentioned it here before but I had contact with a chap who did all of his super 8 dealings from a nearby public phone box and you had to send the films to his nephew or cousins house, the wife never knew the costs etc.
He bought loads of Derann features new, about £350 at the time.
But then he bought T2 and another sci fi one and they just didn`t do it for him and he asked derann to take them back against another new older one he fancied, they were over £700 the 2 and a week old Derann only offered him £90 each credit each agsainst another new one, so he so he wasn`t sure he was going to buy any more.
Most wives probably assume the cost is nearer a dvd. My now Ex other half hated cine, but part of that was me mentioning films that came that were red, vinegar, scratched to bits, missing sound, even a bell and howell TQ1 from an actual engineer who had fitted a new worm gear !!!, but it had an old cracked white one still in etc etc etc she thought I was a right mug keeping putting myself in that possition.I did go through a particularly bad couple of years at that point being lied to and ripped off left right and centre then. Funnily enough ebay made that a bit better.
Best Mark.
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