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Topic: Film vs Digital ... Lets put this one to bed.
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Andrew Woodcock
Film God
Posts: 7477
From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 21, 2016 05:09 PM
It's about the magic of the cinema for film and traditional cinema lovers David. Why not enjoy it in the traditional way it was created for? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Shaky films generally point to some problem on the machines themselves I've found.
On the odd occasion, it can be due to slitting, perforation,or printing faults, but many I've convinced myself are faulty look different again on a stable machine and when well lubricated I've noticed.
I had a similar experience recently with an acetate b/w print.
Shaky on one machine, steady as a rock on another after applying FG.
I don't believe this print on 8 has any common known fault of a particularly shaky image David from the guys I know who have this feature.
At the end of the day David, if the magic has gone for you, I fully understand your preference to screen everything digitally nowadays. It's certainly a whole lot less hassle if that is how you now view film projection these days. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Maybe I will feel similar one day,..you never know??
In fact thinking about it, I already have on two occasions previously. Once at the end of the first era of interest and secondly, about 2 months after getting back into it all!
Thankfully that was some time ago now and as said, I'm having a good time of it all of late, fingers and all else very firmly crossed! ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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"C'mon Baggy..Get with the beat"
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 22, 2016 12:16 AM
Now I can understand why you recently see collecting films as hoarding activities as your topic below:
Collector or Hoarder
Although at the first time, I found we are at the same stage, now I can see we are totally different.
You are in the phase of leaving the hobby because you are too tired with this hobby and cannot longer cope with it.
Nothing will change us from this hobby.
This is a hobby. If you like fishing as a hobby, you prepare the rod and baits, go to creek and river. Hire a boat. It cost you a lot of money.
If you like eating fish, go to supermarket, buy a kilo and fry it. Or the easiest way, go to fish and chips store....
A hobby cannot be described as your way. The more money we spend, the more enjoyment we got. We use hobby as the way to entertain ourselves no matter how much money we spend and what is the result (big fish, small fish, old broken shoes...whatever...) or in other words, we can buy a $5 DVD and got a copy of Tom & Jerry compilations in digital and 5.1 stereo sound or spend $25 for a super 8mm copy of Tom & Jerry.
I am happier with the later.
cheers,
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Winbert
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Graham Ritchie
Film God
Posts: 4001
From: New Zealand
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted August 22, 2016 05:48 AM
Digital and film I feel both have a place. I do feel though that there was for many years unfair criticism towards the 35mm film format itself in the push to go digital. People would say Oh they get scratched and so on. All I can add is that for the years I worked as a projectionist I never scratched a film. With careful threading, plus numerous checks before and after starting the projector, plus good maintenance, cleaning, having a projectionist to monitor sound levels and to keep an eye on the focus was what it was all about. Films like eg "King Kong", "Harry Potter", "Lord of the Rings" looked and sounded great right through the many sessions that those prints ran.
The 35mm format itself was fine, but getting good projectionist that take care and pride in what they were doing with it were not that easy to find..... and that's the crunch.
Last week I bought a Blu-ray, the week before more Super8 and 16mm film which might not be as good as the digital stuff, but for me its more fun.
By the way this is a good documentary and well worth watching on DVD ...
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Tom Spielman
Master Film Handler
Posts: 339
From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Registered: Apr 2016
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posted August 22, 2016 10:53 AM
For me the question of whether film is better or not can't be debated in any objective way because most (not all) of the advantages that people attribute to film are subjective and intangible. I will say that as a person who's life is very much rooted in the digital world, I'm willing to accept that film really does have some unquantifiable benefits. The problem is that some people appreciate those benefits, while others don't.
What is less subjective is that there are people who clearly enjoy collecting, viewing, and shooting film. Not only that, there are those that enjoy tinkering with the machinery involved. I'm one of them, but in two or five years time that may no longer be true. My hobbies tend to change over time. I like the challenge of fixing something old and learning in the process, but I don't want to do the same things over and over again.
If the hobby is no longer fulfilling, then there is no crime in moving on to something else or taking a break from it and coming back. Hobbies are meant to be enjoyed, and if collecting and viewing digital productions brings you more enjoyment, then that is what you should do.
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