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Dino Everette
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1535
From: Long Beach, CA USA
Registered: Dec 2008
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posted March 03, 2014 11:03 PM
Osi, first let me say thank you very much for going through the trouble of putting the video together. I never doubted you, on th contrary I think I got charged up about your method thinking it may have solved something I have long troubled with, but unfortunately as cool as your method is, I think it still leaves me needing a different solution.
I may have to simply make a split reel for Super 8 because the one thing missing from both yours and Winbert's methods was the ability to actually put the film on those little plastic cores...I am sorry it became such a big deal for you, but I do know it is dangerous territory to announce a method of doing anything to film collectors and then not showing it, since we all exist on transferred knowledge... Right? If someone's figured it out already why re-invent the wheel yourself?
So I'll go back to the drawing board with my giant cored films
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and don't worry about the nay-sayers, you showed your method which is all you were obligated to do... As much as I was hoping your method was going to work for me, I think it is a very cool method and will work for most people since it is a simply constructed piece since those little ball bearing wheels can be found fairly easily, even if you don't have exercise equipment.
I commend your ingenuity
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted March 04, 2014 10:40 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys!
As for people apologizing, I'm not expecting much, as, people are far more willing to call you a liar, than actually admit they are wrong publicly.
Sorry my little machine can't be a help to you, Dino ...
Oh, to clear up one little thing, I have heard on another forum, that there has been some confusion about one thing, and I'll clear that up.
Some are arguing that there is no plastic core in the middle. No, I don't use plastic cores, though I would certainly want to have some no doubt. Though it does not have a core in the middle, I have always referred to this as "cored" film, because it is simply not on a reel. However, I have heard some collectors refer to this as a "pancake". That's kind of cool, I must admit, but I think that I will continue to call it a "cored film", as, if I called them "pancakes, well, we would have a no doubt 10 page topic and argument about Super 8 pancakes!! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Soon to come, OSI's collection video. Give me a week or two!
[ March 04, 2014, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: Osi Osgood ]
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Michael O'Regan
Film God
Posts: 3085
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted March 04, 2014 01:10 PM
Osi,
I apologise to you for not dealing with this issue in private in the first instance, before bringing this up in public and then allowing it to become the big issue it has become.
But, as ingenious as your device is, I cannot equate what you show there with what you say you were able to do with the GWTW print.
However, I will freely admit that I may just be wrong, and I have removed all reference to "dishonesty" in my post on the other forum.
But now.....you, and everybody else, will have to grant that the word "cored" in film circles, refers to film on an actual core, and not film with a hole in the centre.
Consequently, will you do something? Go and alter the wording of your prints on ebay, particularly GWTW, to describe exactly how the film is supplied. "Film is cored" to a potential buyer, means the film is on cores.
I think that, surely, nobody here can dispute that this is the fair and honest thing to do.
Joe's suggestion -"this film is not on reels" - is not enough, though. You should be explicit about how the film will be supplied, ie, with an empty middle where the core should be. Here's your chance to be perfectly honest.
Once again, Osi, you have my apologies for starting this up in public without first engaging you in private.
[ March 04, 2014, 03:00 PM: Message edited by: Michael O'Regan ]
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