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peter booth
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 - posted August 19, 2011 09:11 AM      Profile for peter booth   Email peter booth       Edit/Delete Post 
Just heard that Derann are having a closing down sale on the 11th September 2011 due to increasing costs,which they cannot absorb anymore.It's terrible news.
Regards,
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Pasquale DAlessio
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 - posted August 19, 2011 09:44 AM      Profile for Pasquale DAlessio   Email Pasquale DAlessio   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's the worst news I have ever heard! [Eek!] What a major loss for our hobby. Their service is second to none, Gary is excellant with his email responses, their prices are more than fair, the films they sell are accurately described. I could go on and on. This is a major blow to the film collecting hobby. [Mad] I think I shall have to make an appointment with my therapist [Eek!]

This is not a good day [Frown]

Pat D

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peter booth
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Apparently the sale will not be the Open Day format with film shows etc,coffee will be available plus the remaining stock to clear.
Peter.

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Mal Brake
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HI Peter, where did this info come from? There's nothing on their website at present.

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peter booth
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Hi Mal,
I heard from a fellow collector today,I then emailed Ged at Derann his reply contained the official statement that will go out on September 1st from Adrian.
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Peter.

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Mal Brake
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OK, thanks Peter.
It's a shame to see them go after all these years.
I wonder what are the implications for Blackpool and those who have pre-booked/paid for the event.
regards, Mal

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peter booth
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According to the statement all bookings for Blackpool will be refunded.
Peter.

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted August 19, 2011 10:19 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage   Email Osi Osgood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Truly sad, most sad. Does this mean that Derann Films is completely going out of business, (i.e. no longer selling used films as well) or is the producing new films on super 8 ending only.

How would we even really begin a tribute to Derann Films? There is so much to say!

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Keith Ashfield
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Spoke with Ged and the news is correct, in as much as they are not going into administration, but closing whilst they can "hold their heads up". Apparently it is all due to rising costs of running the business in general.

A letter/newsletter/email will be going out explaining all very soon.

Blackpool Convention is also cancelled and monies are being refunded.

There will be a closing down sale on the 11th September.

This is a sad day for film collecting in general.

My commiserations and good wishes go out to Adrian, Ged and Gary for their future.

I have known these "lads" since the late 1970's and really feel for them, and of course, not forgetting Ann Simmonds, and the other staff employed within the shop.

It is a sign of the times I fear, as many small business are feeling the pinch of rising costs.

I will take this opportunity to thank Derann collectively for all they have done for our hobby over the years. Without a doubt Derke would have been proud that they "shouldered" the hobby for as long as they have.

Cheers Lads - see you on the 11th September.

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peter booth
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The whole business is closing down,film and electronics,the main reason cited is the slow down on the High Street,gas and electricity increases ,business rates and rents and probably internet competition,smaller businesses just can't compete,
A terrible loss to our hobby.
Peter.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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That's absolutely a very sad piece of news...

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William Fleming
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Hopefully lots of people will show up to support them on their last day.I for one will definatley be there.

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Claus Harding
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Someone needs to bring a camcorder and microphone (and good shooting skills) to get scenes and comments for a final commemoration of the company.

If I lived in Europe, I'd do it myself.

Claus.

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Adrian Simmonds
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Just to set the record straight, and so that the rumour mongers do not start spreading false gossip following is a copy of the letter that all our customers will receive within the next 2 weeks. We have not gone 'bump', 'bust' or into administration.
It was my decision to simply close the business and cease trading.

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"It is with deep regret that I have to announce, Derann will cease trading next month.

This has been brought on by a number of factors, but in essence is due to the astronomical rising costs that the local council, insurance and utility companies continue to impose on small businesses.
Only 2 months ago, we had a 40% and 45% rise in our gas and electricity bills – now we have been informed that our rates and business insurance will more than double upon renewal (due in part to the riots no doubt).

With the continuing decline, in general to the High Street trade, I have had to make the very difficult decision of whether to continue - of which I can see no upturn, not just in the coming months, but possibly in the next 2 or 3 years.

I would like first and foremost to thank the loyal friends (as I have long since ceased to view you as ‘customers’) who have been buying from Derann over the past 30 or so years.
I would also like to thank all the staff with whom I have grown up and worked with for over 25+ years. I sincerely wish them and you all the very best for the future.

This is also going to mean that the Northern Film Collectors Convention will not be organised by Derann this year – of course, another dealer may wish to be the organiser and I have no problem if this is the case.
All customers and dealers have had their Blackpool deposits refunded.

We are having a final clearance / closing down sale on Sunday 11th September – can I stress, this is not an Open Day, there will not be a film show or a Bring and Buy table, but there will be coffee available – This will be your last chance to pick up that exclusive 8mm / 16mm title or accessory, PLUS of course, any electrical piece of AV equipment or connecting lead – AT PRICES CONSIDERABLY LESS THAN TRADE.

I hope to see you on the 11th, and in closing wish you all the very best for the future.

Regards
Adrian"

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Rob Young.
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Truly sad to read this news...

My best wishes for the future to everyone at Derann.

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Michael O'Regan
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Well, I'm sorry to hear they have to close after all these years and I can see that some of you will feel a little nostalgic for the good old days with them.

But, it's hardly the end of the hobby now, is it?

[Smile]

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This is a major blow to the film collecting hobby.

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Larry Arpin
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Very sad to read. Thought they would last forever.

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Adam Deierling
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Very sad...They were always able to find and sell great films...I don't know what I will do now. Films are hard enough to find already!

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Tom A. Pennock
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Very Very Sad News. For It To Be On 9/11 Too Makes It Even More Sad. I Was Such Good Friends With Derek. We Shared Many Hours Of E-Mails. I Just Don't Know How To Feel. A Sign Of The Very Tough Economic Times. I Am Greatly Saddened By This News. It's The Same Way I Felt When Blackhawk Films Closed Down. Derek Would Understand. He Is Looking Down From Heaven. God Bless Everyone At Derann. It Must Have Been A Very Difficult Decision To Make.

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Graham Ritchie
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Very sad news indeed and can only add that I wish all the staff at Derann all the best for the future.

Graham.

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Ilias Sifakis
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 - posted August 19, 2011 02:41 PM      Profile for Ilias Sifakis   Email Ilias Sifakis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Very very sad news,
I am quite new to the hobby, but I was fortunate enough to deal with Gary a few times, and he offered more than excellent service.
I was always eager to receive Derann's lists and send in my order...
I wish the best of luck to all the people involved with the business...

And i'm more than sorry that I am not able to be there on the close down sale when I'm sure a lot of bargains will appear!!

good luck to all...

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Adrian Winchester
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I can only agree with all the expressions of sadness here. Even though Derann hadn't been able to release anything new for a while, it was always reassuring that they were still around. Of course their Blackpool Convention remained a highlight of the year for many of us, and the Open Days provided something to look forward to at otherwise uneventful times in the year. I'm sure that Blackpool regulars will agree that it was a great boost every year to be able to spend two days or more at a hotel, participating in a friendly occasion where film collecting actually seemed to be a normal and well-supported hobby!

It certainly feels like the end of an era because Derann existed in the days of Std 8 being the most popular guage, then also released product in the mass market days, led the super 8 revival of the 1980s and then carried on releasing for most of the last decade. No other company spans all those eras. Derek's vision in realising that it made good business sense for them to invest in Super 8 and become the 'world leader' around 1984 was remarkable. If you look at a Derann newsletter frem (e.g.) the late 1980s, it's extraordinary to see page after page of exciting new releases. There was then an amazing spirit at Open Days and other events, where you felt that against all the odds, the hobby moved forward and gained a new lease of life. Many titles were released that made you think that anything could happen. I think it's the memory of the upbeat mood of that period that I'll be grateful for as much as all the great titles in my collection that I wouldn't otherwise have. When we evaluate their contribution to Super 8 collecting, it's obviously massive and diverse but perhaps what will stand out the most was the number of full length features of real stature they released - that surely no other company can match.

But of course such memories will be of little consolation to the staff who will soon be out of work - obviously this is much worse news for them and their families than it is for us. It's also a sad day for all who appreciate a distinctive, independent family business that adds something extra to the high street. This shows how difficult it must be for many companies to keep trading nowadays.

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Joe McAllister
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I didn't do as much business with them as I would have liked as all too often the titles on their list which tempted me had been snapped up by the previous caller/mailer. I took this as a sign that they were doing well but obviously not well enough.
Apart from the loss of the Blackpool Convention their absence may undermine the BFCC and other events that they supported by taking stalls.
I'm not surprised that they are having trouble keeping the shop going as competing in the Home Electronics market is tough with the high street chains and internet sites. Its a shame that the niche cine department cant continue as an internet business as that seems to be the way most of us deal with them anyway.

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Bill Brandenstein
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Just the other night I enjoyed some cartoons with friends. The best of them were either made by Derann or were directly bought from them, or both. Just so happens.

What terrible news to see a company that we appreciate so deeply cease operations, great because of both the standard of quality they've set for collectors worldwide, and for the high level of customer service with which they've done it. Bravo, gents! To say you will be missed seems to be too trite a way to express it.

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Thomas Smith
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hello i think derann were the best most of my films are derann
releases in great artwork boxes,i feel sad that they have gone
i wish them all the best of luck for the future [Frown]

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