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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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 - posted November 16, 2009 04:40 AM      Profile for Gian Luca Mario Loncrini   Author's Homepage   Email Gian Luca Mario Loncrini   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Anybody waiting for a delivery as I am?

Just to have an idea (I'm a litte disappointed in reading useless replies I receive to ask for updated news), I've been waiting for a couple of items (one of them ordered and pratically already available in August).

Items were finally shipped October 26th. No shipping code/number available, if I try to track it on the Royal Mail site.

So, am I the only one having this problem with CHC? I was told ALL DELIVERIES are having problem. But I cannot stand there is no way to track a parcel. [Frown] [Roll Eyes] [Frown] [Roll Eyes]

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Michael O'Regan
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 - posted November 16, 2009 05:04 AM      Profile for Michael O'Regan   Email Michael O'Regan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You ordered an item in August and it was shipped October 26th????

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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Better say nothing about the order... [Mad]

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted November 16, 2009 08:32 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't know if this really helps any Gian, but Phil does his best. The problem with ordering a new film item from (or Derann, as a general rule), is that, if they don't have a print in stock, (but they still have the negative for new prints), they may, in a perfect world, just order a print and viola! It's out of the film lab in a day or two ...

... but in reality, there are SO MANY things that can slow down the work of the film lab. Unexpectedly large orders from othger firms, for instance. Then, your print might be the last one down a long line, a great big waiting list.

In that scenario, while Phil may wish to get the print to you right away, his hands are tied by a long wait time. That may be what happened with whatever your order was.

Now, if it was an item on his used list, I don't have an answer for that.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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Osi, items were in stock. Let's avoid talking about the time it took to confirm the order, payment and bla bla bla. Since the very first day the items have been shipped NOBODY (Phil included) was in a position to tell me where the parcel could have been. And the tracking number supplied is invalid.

I'm simply asking if someone else is having the same problem, considering that after 15/20 mails I was told A LOT OF ORDERS haven't been delivered yet.

So, A LOT OF ORDERS (ITEMS)=A LOT OF COLLECTORS (or at least some).
And my question is: am I the only one complaining for this delay (and probably the only one having this problem) or all other buyers (once again, in one mail I was told A LOT OF ORDERS) are patiently waiting their items with no worries?

NO TRACKING NUMBER valid. ROYAL MAIL, after 3 weeks, doesn't know anything about this parcel. CHC doesn't know anything about this parcel.
I know I DID PAY, when it was time to do it. That's all.
I was simply asking if someone is having the same problem or (and that's the feeling) I'm the only one Phil is a little playing with (and I don't like the game at all).

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Chip Gelmini
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I don't know if this is still true - but I heard a while back there is a postal strike in the UK. If yes - it could certainly slow down all orders. Hope this helps you and that you get your films.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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Thanks Chip. I hope it too.
The problem, as already stated, is the MISSING tracking number of the parcel. Nobody knows and nobody is giving me good answers [Mad] .

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Bart Smith
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Gian:

I send approximately 400 packages out every month by Royal Mail, a lot of them to Italy.

Italia Post is, I am afraid to say, very unreliable and very very slow. If you send by Royal Mail you cannot use the tracked 'Airsure' service to Italy (though you can for most other European countries) as Italia Post is not sufficiently organised to keep tabs on where things are.

You can use 'International Signed For', but this is not trackable.

If the trade value (i.e. what CHC paid) is £39 or under, and assuming he has kept a certificate of postage, then it is insured up to that sum of money if he just used normal, untracked Airmail.

Please also note that we have had mail strikes here in the UK. As stuff to Italy is normally very slow anyway, it stands to reason that there may be further delays.

What was the rough value of the package?

And what service was it sent by? (It can only really have been 'International Signed For' if it was sent by Royal Mail).

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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quote:
If the trade value (i.e. what CHC paid) is £39 or under, and assuming he has kept a certificate of postage, then it is insured up to that sum of money.

I wrote Phil SO MANY mails. The only thing I was told is that the parcel was in charge to ROYAL MAIL.
Rough value is more than £ 600. So it's a little more than 39. Anyway, after October 26th I made other orders to INDIPENDENT 8 and Ebay sellers from UK. Everything has been already delivered. No news about CHC. I know about the strike. But items I've spent a lot less for, have already arrived. And the CHC parcel is totally disappeared. Weird!

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Bart Smith
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Personally I would NEVER consider sending something of that value to Italy by Royal Mail!

What is the tracking number?

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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Personally I won't never buy anything else from CHC... I had asked Phil to choose another way. He did not. That's why, at the very beginning of the thread, I stated NO DETAILS ABOUT THE ORDER. It was a mass since the very beginning [Frown] .

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Bart Smith
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Ultimately the responsibility for safe delivery is with the seller, not you, nor the carrier that they choose to use. This is enshrined in European law.

What is the number? There are sometimes other ways to use it....

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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Here it is, Bart.
And thanks for your support: CP670299305GB

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Bart Smith
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Email him back and ask him whether the first 2 letters are correct.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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Already done at least 3 times!... And I was told the number is correct.

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Michael O'Regan
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Try replacing the first two letters with EE.

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Osi Osgood
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Boy Gian!

I hope you get that package! That's almost 1,000.00 dollars american, (or getting close to it). It certianly doesn't follow that the others, shipped at a later date, would arerive before, "The Big One".

There is another remote possibility.

Perhaps, as sometimes happens, customs opened your package to inspect it? If that is the case, then surely it will taken an additional amount of un-knowable time ...

and not knowing is the hardest part!

Just curious, what feature is our fair haired lad in Italy buying this time?

(and can you send a little of that cash my way? That will pay for my ticket to the next BFCC! hee hee, eh eh eh!)

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Bart Smith
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quote:
It certianly doesn't follow that the others, shipped at a later date, would arerive before, "The Big One".
It makes perfect sense that this might be the case. The mail is sorted 'last in, first out', so during the recent strikes in the UK plenty of packages have been languishing at the back of a room whilst those put in more recently have already been sorted and sent on.

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Perhaps, as sometimes happens, customs opened your package to inspect it?
There are no customs controls between the UK and Italy, as both countries are in the EU.

Post to Italy is often slow, give it a week or so longer Gian.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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Thanks guys, let's hope so...

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David Kilderry
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I had a CHC order in the last few months and it arrived here in Australia within a week!

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Greg Marshall
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Gian, did you have CHC insure the package for full value?

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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Greg, I'm not in a position to answer. Every time I try to ask Phil to give me info about the whole situation, he tells me to wait for another while. No additional details supplied, ignoring my enquiries [Frown] ...

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Keith Ashfield
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Hello Gian. Depending on the weight of the parcel it may have been too heavy for "Insured Airmail" so it may have been sent via PARCELFORCE. The "CP" prefix appears to be valid, but only on the Parcelforce website. I have tried your tracking number on the website and this is what it says -

"Online tracking is not available for this service. Please visit our country information pages to check your parcel's transit speed, and confirm delivery with your recipient. Transit speed for this service is not guaranteed, and does not include Customs clearance delays."

Parcelforce do sub-contract out their deliveries to certain countries. When I sent you a parcel, via Parcelforce, I think it was DHL that delivered it and as you know, it was trackable, right to the door. It is not cheap, but the service was excellent.

However,it all depends on the fact that "tracking insurance" has been taken out by the sender. I find it hard to believe that anyone would send out a parcel of that value without insurance, but who knows?

I recently sent a parcel to Germany on 26th October by Royal Mail Airsure. The recipient had given me an incorrect address, therefore it could not be "signed for". The parcel arrived back with me today, but only because I had put a return address on the back of the package. Let's hope CHC have done the same (if so, it should "eventually return to sender".

I think that it is the case of the "lack of information" that is most annoying....

I am sorry that I cannot provide more "positive" help and I hope that you will either locate, or better still, receive your parcel very soon.

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Mark Todd
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Hi Gian, even when there are no stikes or back logs from strikes it can easily be 3/4 weeks to Italy and many US ebayer won`t send there as much can go missing.

There is a range of good insured services available via parcel2go but it can take a while to do online. But you can do it to pick up from say CHC to another person.

So you Gian could have gone on to parcel2go.com and arranged pick up from CH fully covered and then paid by paypal. They may be OK with that for future or other buyers or I and maybe other UK chaps can do it for overseas customers.

There is fully insurable parcel force though Via the post office where CHC post from I`m sure, they must have used that service on a £600 order I`m sure.

Anyway I expect it will be there soon Gian, the strike, Italy anyway, and also Christmas is now in the mix, good luck.
Mark.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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Keith, Mark
thanks a lot for your posts.
I really appreciate your help.

I wrote once more to Phil today and he replied saying he went to the post office where items were posted and he sent a claim. This probably means the items are insured. I hope this will help. Maybe not getting the movie, but at least the money (to spend for other movies [Wink] ).

I really thank you once more for you support. I'm really frutstated with this mistery.

Keith, a big hug to P. also. Still in trouble here. And no time for anything. I miss our long mails. But better times will get soon, hopefully.

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