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Topic: What Films did you show last night?
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted January 20, 2012 12:12 PM
A "dupe" print is one that is not made directly from the first generation source negative, (well, that's a readers digest answer). This means a print that is "dupey" could be many generations down from the original, and with each generation down from the original source there is ...
more grain
less sharpness
less contrast to the print (instead of beautiful grey tones (for instance) on a B/W print, you have varying degrees of just stark black and glaring whites).
... among other hazards.
Perhaps a better explanation would be using a cassette tape to record music. Lets say that you record off of a CD some music on a decent quality cassette tape.
Now, that cassette tape may sound OK, but not quite as good as the CD.
Now, instead of recording directly from the CD, you decide to make another copy of the music, but from the cassette you recorded.
With each generation that you do that, (recording from cassette to cassette, instead of CD) you will find more tape "hiss" in the overall recording.
This is why I always love when recording artists re-release thier music, they go back to the session tapes instead of just copying what was already released on CD.
Simon and Garfunkel's box collection is a great example. They're greatest hits CD, that was available for years, had a lot of tape hiss to the recordings. When they released a box set of they're music some years ago, they went back to the session tapes, cleaned them up, and it was like night and day, the recordings sounded alive and fresh!
I wen on a bit, but that gives you an idea about "dupey" super 8 or other gauge film prints.
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Gerald Santana
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1060
From: Cottage Grove OR
Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 25, 2012 03:33 AM
Laksmi,
Awesome descriptions and screen-shots! I had the 2 x 400' digest of Buck Rogers and the 21st Century, it's hilarious and always was a big hit.
Is this a 400' cut down?
And Akshay, your screen shots are terrific as well keep up the great work!
Last night I screened many films but, did not have time to set up my camera.
I took a look at The Wizard of Oz (1939) on 16mm with some fade but otherwise, it still had fair color, stronger in many scenes. It was a composite of a few different film stocks.
Next, I have a couple of screenings coming up and have been having trouble with warping on a 2 x1200' print of King Kong (1933) on Super 8 so, a few days ago I gave it a coat of Film Gaurd after transferring it into smaller 600' reels.
Tonight, 50' of reel 4 wound up on the floor anyway. ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif) So plan "C" was to split up that reel and that seemed to work but now, I have a 5 x 600' print to run for the screening.
Later, I ran a 1200' Super 8 reel of Columbia Classics World Heavyweight Boxing Highlights from 1882-1974. It features all of the important title matches from John L. Sullivan to George Foreman.
This print ran very smoothly although spliced, and ended around the time of Joe Louis. I need to splice together another 800' or so of highlights from Rocky Marciano to Muhammad Ali. I highly recommend the Columbia Classics over the Universal 8 or Castle Films matches.
Finally, the kid needed to go to sleep so I put on Walt Disney's The Ugly Duckling (1939) and then The Dapper Dalmatian on Super 8. Both films still have fair color, the kid loved them and was yelling out "duck" and "dog" before he went to sleep.
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http://lostandoutofprintfilms.blogspot.com/
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Panayotis A. Carayannis
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 969
From: Athens,Greece
Registered: Jul 2008
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posted January 28, 2012 07:59 AM
Hasn't anybody noticed that the super 8 Blackhawk ONE A.M. is severely shortened? It runs about 16 minutes. and the quality of it, is not the best! I don't know if older,or std 8 copies were fuller and their negative wore out or if they were working always from that same negative.
At one time,years ago,I found myself in possession of multiple copies of (mostly) Chaplin comedies from Blackhawk,Walton and Film Office. Most of them had scenes missing from one copy and available in another,or sequences edited differently and I found also,that Blackhawk didn't always have the best quality! Blackhawk copies were,with the above exception, complete while the others' ran about 17-18 minutes. So, I sat down with two editors and am today the proud owner of complete(?) high quality titles like THE COUNT and A NIGHT OUT.
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